Is MMA and cage fighting respected by Martial Artists?

by MasterBlaster on May 27, 2010

I’m not a MMA hater, but I was talking to one of my friends about the respect a mixed martial artist (notably the ones that fight in cages like in UFC and in rings like PRIDE FC), and I was wondering do any of them get respect from Grandmaster martial artists and expert Martial Arts practitioners? Is it a revered style or is it denounced and considered a “disgrace” to Martial Arts?

Please, I want serious answers. I don’t mean to sound offensive if it seems that way.

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lee49202 May 27, 2010 at 19:26

It’s no different than any other sport, and is respected as one. I think some folks have a problem with those claiming that a sport (rules, refs, corner men, etc.) somehow translates to real life where you’re on your own. The atheletes show dedication to their sport the same as an NFL running back, or NBA forward, or NASCAR driver.

Bruce Tzu May 27, 2010 at 19:55

I suppose some martial artist do. I know Gene Lebell is a judge in MMA.

You can also turn the question around and say do MMA fighters respect martial artists.

bam May 27, 2010 at 20:20

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JIM R May 27, 2010 at 20:58

Traditional Martial Artist views vary.

Some view MMA like watching a street fight.
Some view MMA as a mix of styles in action.

Big Foot May 27, 2010 at 21:20

Its split, my instructor just thinks they are crazy but he also respects them for having balls to step in the cage and fight

other people seem to hate MMA, dont know why, its seems that martial arts have either embraced MMA, some clubs going so far as to become MMA clubs, I have seen kung fu gyms and karate gyms introduceing BJJ and kickboxing, other clubs wont have any of it, so its very split

BTW MMA fighters are martial artists who have their own instructors, its not like they magicaly learned martial arts, they have trained in lots of places where they were respected so why should things change when they go into MMA

I guess thinking about it some more, the only people who will not have respect for MMA are the same people that never had respect for any martial arts “competition” in the first place

Chris R May 27, 2010 at 21:28

Personally I believe it should be respected as an evolution of martial arts. Taking what works from different disciplines. What I think gives the sport a bad name is the type of low life people you see as the sports face. Don’t get me wrong, there are some very classy and professional fighters out there but then again, there is the Ultimate Fighter, lol. Not a lot of class displayed there. -Chris

Trent "Increase the peace&q May 27, 2010 at 22:04

MMA is what it is. There are a lot a great fighters who would never compete on this level, not because they can’t, just because it is not their thing.

J7 May 27, 2010 at 23:04

If you dig it, who really cares what anybody else thinks.

BTW, your grandmasters would get their A S S kicked if they mixed it up with a UFC guy.

What? Me fight on the ground?

chuck5101 May 27, 2010 at 23:56

It’s a very touchy subject with some groups or styles… MMA fights don’t look much like the “beautiful style” they teach…. and that “beautiful style” may teach you how to put your fist or foot through a brick wall…. with a “beautiful technique”…. but It is taught that if you can put your foot or fist through a brick wall…. Don’t ever do it to a human being….. And that is all good and well and I agree with it 100%, but you are never going to land that technique on a trained fighter… That is what makes MMA “safe”…. the defensive skill of the fighters…… (sure you will see some get knocked out, but honestly that is safe, but not fun) Its easy to hit some poor guy who picked a fight with the wrong person….. so you dont have to hit the with everything you have to stop a fight…. As long as there are no complete mismatches in MMA it will continue to grow as a higher lever of Martial Arts training….

sixtus May 28, 2010 at 00:53

Honest answer from international level fighter.

When 1993 and the UFC came along it totally floored the tradtional martial arts world. Memberships for the main ones TKD, karate etc dropped badly.

And these are big businesses.we are talking billions of dollars.

It took them nearly 10 years to recover, and the new marketing angle was to say “MMA and UFC is just a sport, what we teach is too lethal to be a sport etc”

“That’s the reason why we lost in MMA competitions”

The point was martial arts were always supposed to be able to win in any situation, sport or otherwise, and that is what they always claimed.

Since karate, TKD, wing shun, etc. all hold compeititions without lethal force themselves, so what’s the difference with having a few less rules in an MMA bout?

It should be even better for them since it has less rules, and benefits their ‘nastier technqiues’ better!

But no apparently the martial arts are now only best for ‘semi contact compeitions’ and ‘lethal street defence’, but for some reason they skip the ‘full contact all styles comp’ in the middle.

Which makes no sense whatsoever.

Any intelligent person can see they just switched marketing to a new angles, and sort of swept the sport angle back under the carpet, when it didn’t work out too well :)

Kuntawista May 28, 2010 at 01:46

I respect them because they can take a hit like no other and they are very dedicated to their training. What I don’t respect about them if they train for competition alone; they don’t train for self-defense. Many are very cocky and don’t have good self-discipline. That is not to say there aren’t martial artists out there that are like that.

Ray H May 28, 2010 at 02:03

MMA is not a style, its a concept. Most true martial artists respect that concept, and often use it. As for the fighters, respect is something you earn through your actions and deeds. If they are not jerks, they have my respect.

gregory h May 28, 2010 at 02:08

most of the ones who really understand martial arts respect it even if they dont liek it most of the martial artist who hate are gradiates of a mcdojo who cant fight anyway martial arts were figthing styles first and foremost

El Chupacabra May 28, 2010 at 03:06

who are they to say its a disgrace of martial arts anyway?

Respect begets Respect

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