Renzo Gracie Discusses UFC 112 Debut Against Matt Hughes

by MasterBlaster on April 14, 2010


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Deej1188 April 14, 2010 at 18:26

@Kdaddy61987 Takase is known to be a great jits guy. His MMA skills don’t measure up. Okami got knocked out by an illegal kick.

I am fortunate to have trained w/ Jon Jones in central NY before he moved his training camps to Greg Jackson’s. He was a Jr college national champion and would have went to wrestle a Iowa if the UFC didn’t pick him up.

Grappling credentials mean nothing? How many times has Machida actually been subed? Fitch?

Do you really think Beach muscles > JJ black belts?

cheesepufff April 14, 2010 at 18:55

@Kdaddy61987 well the thing is that in a few and i stress that just a few instances the difference in strength may come in handy but for the most part it really doesnt help too much and im telling you from experience, ive wrestled stronger guys and ive wrestled weaker guys. The reason BJJ and wrestling is so important is that fights usually end on the floor. btw is it just me or was this ufc rigged most the fights looked fake?

Kdaddy61987 April 14, 2010 at 19:54

Really takase did pretty easy as well as okami. Heres the thing you just named 2 guys who are out of the norm murdering former wrestlers, guess what theres thousands of guys who walk in there and beat up guys who have the “credentials” machida got his brown belt in bjj before he fought ortiz and nearly got submitted twice. Fitch recieved a bb in gorilla bjj and yet he couldnt submit a pillow. Those mean nothing.

Kdaddy61987 April 14, 2010 at 20:07

Ill give an example, roy nelson cuts how much weight? Hes a great wrestler and bjj guy. His mass is a asset and his skills make him a really unique fighter. Gsp natural abilitys made him a amazing wreslter. He just has the ability to overwhelm you. I powerlift and if i was simply stonger then you and just as athletic i would be a tough out for someone forcing me aginst my will.

Kdaddy61987 April 14, 2010 at 20:24

Thats not what im saying, everything comes with a certain skill set and persons own personel strength and weaknesses. All im saying is that wrestling/submission are overrated compared to the stand up aspect of fighting. Am i saying that im a great wrestler no, could i be maybe. Just saying if im stronger,faster and mopre athletic then you i have a fair shot at beating you, not because of skill but because of mass and athleticsm

cheesepufff April 14, 2010 at 20:37

@Kdaddy61987 comming from someone who used to wrestle, i can honestly tell you that wrestling is more physically demanding than any other apect of mma and its not nearly as simple as you may think. Not everyone has what it takes to wrestle

abby161919 April 14, 2010 at 21:35

renzo is nothing he is no father he is shit!!

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Deej1188 April 14, 2010 at 22:30

@Kdaddy61987 Also, you must be home schooled or live in some kind of bubble. You do realize that HUGE wrestlers cut to make 149. If you stayed at 200, I’m pretty sure you would die.

A while ago, some videos were posted of Arizona State’s wrestling conditioning workouts. If you think that you can do what they do and if “anyone can learn how to wrestle”, I fully expect you to get a full ride to wrestle division one. Otherwise, grow up. What are you…like 14?

Deej1188 April 14, 2010 at 23:24

@Kdaddy61987 You can’t cite GSP as a reason why you think YOU can out wrestle D-1 wrestlers because you are a power lifter. The man is a freak. Jon Jones is a Greco guy. But he learns Judo throws from watching videos. That doesn’t mean “anyone can learn” to do it. It just shows how amazing these guys are.

While Maia is a thoroughbred ADCC champ, Silva is still a blackbelt in both Judo and BJJ. You can’t call Maia’s grappling overrated when he is trying to take down those credentials.

Kdaddy61987 April 14, 2010 at 23:32

Anyone can learn how to wreslt, look at gsp. He beat how many former all american college wreslters and he didnt take wrestling seriously till he got in mma? Also this is exactly my point maia is arguably the best submission artist in the wolrd right now and he couldnt get it to the ground which makes it overrated. Just simple logic, also if i got in shape whos to say i couldnt beat a guy at wrestling in my own weight class? How many bjj fighters does silva need to embarress?

Maloperverso April 14, 2010 at 23:34

Is Renzo Gracie Royce Gracie’s brother?

Deej1188 April 14, 2010 at 23:48

@Kdaddy61987 That fight does nothing at all to prove your point. There is really no one at middle weight to challenge Silva. Maia stepping in for an injured Belfort is exactly that.

Silva stuffs takedowns and subs so well because he is a BJJ and Judo black belt. So its not like he agrees with you that takedowns are over rated. He has been training it for years.

And if I’m not mistaken, you’re the guy who said he could out wrestle D-1 wrestlers because you lift weights.

GTFO kid.

WielkiPolskiPatriota April 15, 2010 at 00:20

renzo now is jus a talker…damn he was so damn weak in ufc 112…guhes raped his sorry ass

Dmasterman April 15, 2010 at 00:43

@saultman For a guy who disses and even spits on some of his opponents, I’m glad he lost :)

Kdaddy61987 April 15, 2010 at 00:49

If you look at the best strikers in the world, guys who move from kickboxing,thai,sanshou,wkb and other orgs that what happens. Cro crop early in his career was killing people, kid norfi is small for even 135 and was a monster in mma, cung le was strikeforce champ at 185, anderson silva former shoot champion destroy guys who fight on the ground. Yes they all have losses to grapplers/submmision fighters but they all have far more impressive wins.

Kdaddy61987 April 15, 2010 at 01:38

Just by chance you see the silva vs maia fight? I love maia ground game but to me that is what happens when the best fighters in thw world do to people who focus more on the ground game. Silva avoided takedowns and that was it, gsp had hardy down the entire fight yet didnt leave a mark on hardy. Silva made a statement by saying ufc bring in some good fighters. The ufc let go dan henderson and didnt sign melvin mahnhoef who to me would give silva the most problems.

davidpenn93 April 15, 2010 at 02:05

if you missed UFC 112 OR WRESTLEMANIA
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KneebarBuffet April 15, 2010 at 02:24

@everygreatpowerfalls don’t u feel like a fuckn know it all.

everygreatpowerfalls April 15, 2010 at 02:29

@KneebarBuffet dont you feel like a fucken dumb shit

leonardjr88 April 15, 2010 at 02:47

u fucked yourself didnt even have enuff heart to stand and fight

TwistOfReality1 April 15, 2010 at 02:55

AnGeLOFDeAtH2215 any1 who has jujitsu will kick ur ass show shut the f up

Masterale7 April 15, 2010 at 03:35

matt hughes the gracie killer for me its the best figther in mma shame the age come for hem i think rodrigo gracie maybe can beat matt but we whait for that and my respects for gracie fans

RubInatube April 15, 2010 at 03:40

He needs to check those low kicks and improve a lot his cardio. Hughes didn’t kil him because he don’t wanted to.

BiGj0ek April 15, 2010 at 04:12

Some think the Silva fight was interesting or not….YOU have to look at the BIG picture. Hughes was an INSULT, PENN was a blow to your face (in terms of dominance), well…at this point I’m thinking SILVA should win to to keep UFC alive. BEHOLD….Silva wins with his SKILL (which I don’t dispute), but seriously, UFC needed that win MORE than Silva. IF you see the whole event, anybody with half a brain would see that it IS RIGGED.

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